25 Responses to “Blackjack Basic Strategy, Part 2”
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25 Responses to “Blackjack Basic Strategy, Part 2”
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alandom Says:
January 31st, 2012 at 6:09 pmis my chance of winning affected by other players on the table? for example if I am the only one playing with basic strategy and other players on the same table playing crappy (e.g. splitting 10s), would my chance be affected?
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January 31st, 2012 at 6:51 pm@asherasator If basic strategy doesn’t work, why would the MIT blackjack team have used it? They did win millions. You are WRONG!!!
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January 31st, 2012 at 7:39 pmis atlantic city better than las vegas??? which is more awesome?
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January 31st, 2012 at 8:30 pmit all comes down to percentages baby……a good play would be learning all the rules and choosing how many rounds you want to play of blackjack and figure out how to win maybe about a 65 to 70 percent for say 30 rounds or 50 rounds and make little bit of profit.
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January 31st, 2012 at 9:27 pmWhat happen if I have 6-6 (which is 12) and I hit a 4. Now that I got 16, do I hit again if dealer up card is a 10.
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January 31st, 2012 at 9:58 pmcan u explain “double down” please
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January 31st, 2012 at 10:32 pm@shotgunwound I’ve tested splitting 10s at home with 8 decks (actual cards NOT computer simulation) & in the casino & over 80% of the time I WON. & was one of the most important facets for doubling my money early. My rule in a casino is only split against 4,5,6, but @ home against high cards as well & IT DOES WORK. It’s worse to split 8s & aces against high cards. Basic strategy DOES’NT WORK, almost everybody in a casino is using it & LOSING MAJOR.
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January 31st, 2012 at 11:20 pm@Streetsleeper215 The simulations used to develop EZ Basic Strategy were run in Oct. 2004, so the strategy was developed shortly afterward. The hands you refer to were played that way back in the 1960’s when Ed Thorp developed his first strategy. EZ strategy was developed for a 6 deck game where Thorp’s was for single deck. There are few single deck games now, but even compared to EZ strategy, hitting the 2-2 vs 2 and 3 has a higher advantage (-1.57 and +1.2 vs -6.37 and -3.58).
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February 1st, 2012 at 12:16 amHow updated is your basic strategy card? I purchased my card 3 years ago and my pair of 4,4 against dealer 5,6, you split. But yours says hit every hand. My 2,2 says split against dealers 2,3,4,5,6,7. But yours only split from a 4,5,6. Is this basic strategy that I’m playing dated? Thank you.
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February 1st, 2012 at 1:06 am@dmed312 I am not a professional gambler. I have a good profession and a steady paycheck, and I gamble for the fun and profit of it.
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February 1st, 2012 at 1:25 amhave you made a decent living playing blackjack?
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February 1st, 2012 at 1:38 amlol im a fair newbie at Blackjack…always thought to split tens…tried it recently at the casino…everyone was like “noooooo”. I gotta say though…ive done it a fair number of times and had sucess with it, esp if the dealer has a low card.
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February 1st, 2012 at 2:34 amDo you play at casino’s often and what is your win rate?
Cheers
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February 1st, 2012 at 3:20 amGreat video Billy …..thanks.
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February 1st, 2012 at 3:25 amthank you so much i have been trying to learn this table forever!!!
and you video got me to learn it easy
ha easy money now lol
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February 1st, 2012 at 4:15 amIt sucks, but there will be more money won when doubling on a 5-5 against a dealer 9 or less up card. 4 aces, 16 ten cards,and 4 nines per deck may be drawn as well. If you are not comfortable doubling on the 5-5, you could restrict doubling to a dealer 6 or less up card and decrease the risk of loss. The basic strategy chart gives the correct way to play to win more money, but not always more hands. That is especially true with doubling down.
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February 1st, 2012 at 4:21 amdoubling down.. does that mean you only get one extra card? if so wouldnt that suck if say u have 5 5 and it says double down but then the next card that comes up is a 2-4 then the highest u have is 14?
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February 1st, 2012 at 4:46 amoh, well i guess it kinda makes sence now, ty
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February 1st, 2012 at 4:54 amGood answer Sammy.
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February 1st, 2012 at 5:20 amCapone,
First, look at dealer bust rates. The dealer busts witha 7 up card 26% of the time. He makes a hand and you lose the other 74% of the time. Dealer 8 up: 24%, dealer9 up:23%, Dealer 10 up:21% and dealerAce up:bust rate of 12%.
Using your 15 as an example, if you hit it against a dealer 7 up card, you will lose 65% of the time and win or push 35% of the time. If you don’t hit, you lose 74% of the time. This is true for all the hands 12 -16 versus dealer 7, 8, 9, 10, and Ace.
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February 1st, 2012 at 5:26 amSammy,
I looked back at my simulations using Casino Verite’ Software, and these two are close in every category: advantage, hands won, hands lost, $ won per hand. So you can go either way, split or not split. I looked in my library and found those who stand(Stanford Wong, Arnold Snyder) and those who split(Thorp) and others who split if you can double down after splitting only.
I didn’t see any advantage to splitting, and my style of play is conservative, so I chose to hit these.
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February 1st, 2012 at 6:13 ambilly,
i found a few basic strat. tables online that tell me to split a pair of 2’s / 3’s against the dealers 7. You’re chart says otherwise? -
February 1st, 2012 at 6:36 amdude, think about it like this.
if u got 16 v K, you are probably a high underdog (im guessing 6-1 underdog?), but by hitting, you are less of an underdog (probably about 5-1 underdog). You’re still an underdog by hitting, but less of an underdog than if u stood. -
February 1st, 2012 at 7:34 amwell, how could i win more if there are gonna be more busting cards with that hand dan NON busting cards?
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February 1st, 2012 at 8:09 amCapone,
The reason you hit is because, statistically, you will lose more often if you stand. The tables were created based on simulating billions of hands. Then the results were looked at and the most favorable choice for the player was chosen. Most of the time you win more money in the long run by playing the correct way. At other times, such as splitting a pair of 8’s, you lose less if you split than if you hit the 16 versus any dealer hand. That’s why you always split 8’s.
Bill
January 31st, 2012 at 5:58 pm
is my chance of winning affected by other players on the table? for example if I am the only one playing with basic strategy and other players on the same table playing crappy (e.g. splitting 10s), would my chance be affected?
January 31st, 2012 at 6:52 pm
@asherasator If basic strategy doesn’t work, why would the MIT blackjack team have used it? They did win millions. You are WRONG!!!
January 31st, 2012 at 7:50 pm
is atlantic city better than las vegas??? which is more awesome?
January 31st, 2012 at 8:10 pm
it all comes down to percentages baby……a good play would be learning all the rules and choosing how many rounds you want to play of blackjack and figure out how to win maybe about a 65 to 70 percent for say 30 rounds or 50 rounds and make little bit of profit.
January 31st, 2012 at 9:05 pm
What happen if I have 6-6 (which is 12) and I hit a 4. Now that I got 16, do I hit again if dealer up card is a 10.
January 31st, 2012 at 9:57 pm
can u explain “double down” please
January 31st, 2012 at 9:57 pm
@shotgunwound I’ve tested splitting 10s at home with 8 decks (actual cards NOT computer simulation) & in the casino & over 80% of the time I WON. & was one of the most important facets for doubling my money early. My rule in a casino is only split against 4,5,6, but @ home against high cards as well & IT DOES WORK. It’s worse to split 8s & aces against high cards. Basic strategy DOES’NT WORK, almost everybody in a casino is using it & LOSING MAJOR.
January 31st, 2012 at 10:43 pm
@Streetsleeper215 The simulations used to develop EZ Basic Strategy were run in Oct. 2004, so the strategy was developed shortly afterward. The hands you refer to were played that way back in the 1960’s when Ed Thorp developed his first strategy. EZ strategy was developed for a 6 deck game where Thorp’s was for single deck. There are few single deck games now, but even compared to EZ strategy, hitting the 2-2 vs 2 and 3 has a higher advantage (-1.57 and +1.2 vs -6.37 and -3.58).
January 31st, 2012 at 10:43 pm
How updated is your basic strategy card? I purchased my card 3 years ago and my pair of 4,4 against dealer 5,6, you split. But yours says hit every hand. My 2,2 says split against dealers 2,3,4,5,6,7. But yours only split from a 4,5,6. Is this basic strategy that I’m playing dated? Thank you.
January 31st, 2012 at 11:27 pm
@dmed312 I am not a professional gambler. I have a good profession and a steady paycheck, and I gamble for the fun and profit of it.
January 31st, 2012 at 11:42 pm
have you made a decent living playing blackjack?
February 1st, 2012 at 12:28 am
lol im a fair newbie at Blackjack…always thought to split tens…tried it recently at the casino…everyone was like “noooooo”. I gotta say though…ive done it a fair number of times and had sucess with it, esp if the dealer has a low card.
February 1st, 2012 at 12:40 am
Do you play at casino’s often and what is your win rate?
Cheers
February 1st, 2012 at 1:29 am
Great video Billy …..thanks.
February 1st, 2012 at 1:33 am
thank you so much i have been trying to learn this table forever!!!
and you video got me to learn it easy
ha easy money now lol
thanks
February 1st, 2012 at 2:32 am
It sucks, but there will be more money won when doubling on a 5-5 against a dealer 9 or less up card. 4 aces, 16 ten cards,and 4 nines per deck may be drawn as well. If you are not comfortable doubling on the 5-5, you could restrict doubling to a dealer 6 or less up card and decrease the risk of loss. The basic strategy chart gives the correct way to play to win more money, but not always more hands. That is especially true with doubling down.
Bill
February 1st, 2012 at 2:53 am
doubling down.. does that mean you only get one extra card? if so wouldnt that suck if say u have 5 5 and it says double down but then the next card that comes up is a 2-4 then the highest u have is 14?
February 1st, 2012 at 3:35 am
oh, well i guess it kinda makes sence now, ty
February 1st, 2012 at 4:28 am
Good answer Sammy.
Bill
February 1st, 2012 at 4:31 am
Capone,
First, look at dealer bust rates. The dealer busts witha 7 up card 26% of the time. He makes a hand and you lose the other 74% of the time. Dealer 8 up: 24%, dealer9 up:23%, Dealer 10 up:21% and dealerAce up:bust rate of 12%.
Using your 15 as an example, if you hit it against a dealer 7 up card, you will lose 65% of the time and win or push 35% of the time. If you don’t hit, you lose 74% of the time. This is true for all the hands 12 -16 versus dealer 7, 8, 9, 10, and Ace.
Bill
February 1st, 2012 at 5:13 am
Sammy,
I looked back at my simulations using Casino Verite’ Software, and these two are close in every category: advantage, hands won, hands lost, $ won per hand. So you can go either way, split or not split. I looked in my library and found those who stand(Stanford Wong, Arnold Snyder) and those who split(Thorp) and others who split if you can double down after splitting only.
I didn’t see any advantage to splitting, and my style of play is conservative, so I chose to hit these.
Bill
February 1st, 2012 at 5:39 am
billy,
i found a few basic strat. tables online that tell me to split a pair of 2’s / 3’s against the dealers 7. You’re chart says otherwise?
February 1st, 2012 at 6:34 am
dude, think about it like this.
if u got 16 v K, you are probably a high underdog (im guessing 6-1 underdog?), but by hitting, you are less of an underdog (probably about 5-1 underdog). You’re still an underdog by hitting, but less of an underdog than if u stood.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:20 am
well, how could i win more if there are gonna be more busting cards with that hand dan NON busting cards?
February 1st, 2012 at 8:07 am
Capone,
The reason you hit is because, statistically, you will lose more often if you stand. The tables were created based on simulating billions of hands. Then the results were looked at and the most favorable choice for the player was chosen. Most of the time you win more money in the long run by playing the correct way. At other times, such as splitting a pair of 8’s, you lose less if you split than if you hit the 16 versus any dealer hand. That’s why you always split 8’s.
Bill